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Krit Motor Car Company
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c***@webtv.net
2009-10-11 12:11:03 UTC
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at, rec.autos.antique newsgroup.

Looks like a bunch of Nazi stuff there.
cuhulin
fred
2009-10-11 16:44:54 UTC
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Post by c***@webtv.net
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Looks like a bunch of Nazi stuff there.
Just another gg wacko.
c***@webtv.net
2009-10-11 20:39:43 UTC
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I have a lot of hardback books about antique cars and classic cars and
trucks too.I will see if Krit Motor Car Company is listed in there.
One of my books says there have been over 2,000 different names of cars
made in America before.
cuhulin
News Journalism
2009-10-13 11:47:21 UTC
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If anyone can find out more about Kenneth Crittenden and any
explanantion he gave for the Krit logo, that would be very interesting
to read.

Another group had this information about the topic -

Krit Motor cars are part of the story of how Americans popularized
swastikas and nazi salutes worldwide.

Did nazis adopt the swastika and nazi salutes from American national
socialists?

The swastika was on American cars (e.g. the Krit Motor Car Company of
Detroit, Michigan from 1909 to 1915) years before it was associated
with German cars and the Volkswagen VW. http://rexcurry.net/krit_motor_car_company_detroit.html

Earlier, the use of the swastika by American national socialists began
with Edward Bellamy (in 1888 or before).
http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-blavatsky-theosophical-society.html

Edward Bellamy was the cousin and cohort of Francis Bellamy, author of
the "Pledge of Allegiance" (PoA), the origin of the stiff-armed salute
in 1892. http://rexcurry.net/pledgetragedy.html

Did Krit and the Bellamys influence use of the swastika by the
National Socialist German Workers Party? Many Krit cars were exported
to Europe and Australia. On December 29, 1914, a New York Times
newspaper article states that WWI was responsible for the bankruptcy
of the Krit Motor Car Company, to wit: "Lack of business, due to the
European war, is given as the cause of the failure."

That means that an American car company was the first to put swastikas
on cars in Europe. Krit produced bus / truck models that could carry
15 people. Were Krit buses / trucks have been used in WWI by German
military, by the free corps (freikorps), or the Ehrhard Brigade? Did
Hitler see Krit cars or even ride in them?
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Here is a photograph of a Krit carrying 15 or more people.
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Edward Bellamy's book about national socialism, entitled "Looking
Backward" (1888), was an international bestseller translated into
every major language, including German. It inspired a national
socialism movement worldwide.

The Krit swastika had many similarities to the Hakenkreuz (hooked
cross) used later by German National Socialists. A photograph of the
Krit logo is at this link. Loading Image...

The Krit swastika is very similar to the membership pin used under
Nazism. Loading Image...

Here are other examples Loading Image...

An important difference between the Krit swastika and the Nazi
membership pin's hakenkreuz is that the latter shows how the symbol
was turned 45 degrees from the horizontal to represent S-letters for
"sozialistische" (socialist) under the National Socialist German
Workers Party (NSGWP or NSDAP), as shown in the growing body of work
by the symbolist Dr. Rex Curry (author of "Swastika Secrets").
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html

Because of government schools (socialist schools) almost all Americans
are ignorant of the fact that the "nazis" did not call themselves
"nazis," nor "fascists," that it was not the "nazi party," and that
they did not call their symbol a "swastika." The use of the term
"nazi" rocketed (along with American ignorance) due to propaganda
after the USA became WWII allies with the former Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics (formerly a WWII ally of the National Socialist
German Workers Party).

Although an ancient symbol, the swastika was used to represent crossed
S-letters for "socialism" under the NSDAP. See the graphic image of
the swastika symbolism at Loading Image...

Krit's swastika might have inspired the alphabetical symbolism under
Nazism, in that Krit's swastika examines alphabetical symbolism with
the four letters K-R-I-T spaced at the four sides of the flat
swastika. Adolf Hitler took the same idea another step.

The swastika as alphabetic symbolism in the USA was not new when
Hitler followed suit. The following link shows another example of the
swastika used as alphabetical symbolism in the USA.
http://rexcurry.net/swastika-hakenkreuz.html

The Volkswagen VW logo and the Audi logo expose the swastika as
intertwined "S" shapes symbolizing "Socialism" for the monstrous
National Socialist German Workers' Party, and provide more support for
Dr. Curry's work. http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter4a1a2a1.html

The following image shows additional graphic examples of the symbolism
of the swastika Loading Image...

Before the VW emblem was created, the organization that controlled
volkswagen was the Deutsche Arbeitsfront (DAF or German Labor Front)
and its logo used a swastika encircled by a cogwheel.
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Similar alphabetical symbolism was used under the NSDAP for the "SS"
division, the "SA," the "NSV," et cetera.
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The Trabant car also provides support. http://rexcurry.net/trabant-sachsenring-rex-curry.html

The Krit company existed from July 1909 to 1915. The Krit car was
designed by Kenneth Crittenden, who had worked at Ford and Regal.

Although the swastika had a history as a generic "good luck" symbol,
that luck did not last for Krit, nor for the National Socialist German
Workers Party. However, the VW badge, based on the swastika
philosophically and stylistically, continues to be visible today and
every day on Volkswagen automobiles.

Not only did Woodrow Wilson's war (World War I) help bankrupt the Krit
company, so did Franklin Roosevelt's war (World War II). The mood
against German National Socialism spilled over against the remaining
6000 Krit cars originally built between 1909 and 1915 (due to the Krit
car's swastika symbol). Many of the remaining Krit cars were destroyed
for metal for WWII. Krit cars are very rare today.

New discoveries show that American soldiers used the swastika as their
symbol early in World War I, and up to 1941, against Germany. The
symbol was used by Americans in the French Escadrille Lafayette, by
the 45th Infantry Divison, and on Boeing P-12 planes.
http://rexcurry.net/45th-infantry-division-swastika-sooner-soldiers.html

Dr. Curry has previously shown how socialists in the USA originated
the modern swastika as overlapping "S" letters for "Socialists"
joining together in a utopian "Socialist Society" (decades later, it
was used by the National Socialist German Workers Party). During the
time when American soldiers adopted the swastika, the symbol was
associated in the USA with the growing popularity of "military
socialism," a dogma touted by Edward Bellamy, the American author of
the international bestseller "Looking Backward," (1887) known as the
bible of National Socialism. Edward Bellamy was cousin to Francis
Bellamy, author of the Pledge of Allegiance, the origin of the stiff-
armed salute adopted later by the NSGWP.

The symbol was also famous in the USA as alphabetical symbolism for
socialism in the Theosophical Society (TS), from 1875. The swastika
spread wide swathes of socialism via that group.
http://rexcurry.net/theosophy-madame-blavatsky-theosophical-society.html

In 1888, the Theosophical Society teamed up with the Bellamy
Nationalist movement for military socialism. The "Bellamy swastika"
and the "Bellamy salute" spread.

A Harvard grad, Ernst Hanfstaengl (aka "Hitler's Piano Player") is
another of many sources (including photographs and movies of the
Bellamy salute, and international travel) that exposed Hitler and
other German socialists to the early American stiff-armed salute and
the PoA's robotic chanting to flags in the USA. http://rexcurry.net/swastika-hanfstaengl.html

Dr. Curry's work has been cited and verified on Wikipedia. It might be
the most referenced historical research of its type on Wikipedia. His
work is sometimes used without attribution on Wikipedia in apparent
efforts to boost the credibility of the borrowers. Even Wikipedia's
founder Jimbo Wales has publicly commented on Dr. Curry's influence on
Wikipedia.
AMuzi
2009-10-13 23:15:38 UTC
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Post by fred
Post by c***@webtv.net
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Looks like a bunch of Nazi stuff there.
Just another gg wacko.
Swastika didn't have a darker meaning then. This from 1921:
http://www.wfaa.com/perl/common/slideshow/sspop.pl?recid=18115&nextimage=15
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Hachiroku ハチロク
2009-10-13 23:23:36 UTC
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Post by AMuzi
Post by fred
Post by c***@webtv.net
at, rec.autos.antique newsgroup.
Looks like a bunch of Nazi stuff there.
Just another gg wacko.
http://www.wfaa.com/perl/common/slideshow/sspop.pl?recid=18115&nextimage=15
I was in a Catholic Church where there were Swastikas. It used to be used
as a form of the Cross.
c***@webtv.net
2009-10-14 00:50:11 UTC
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India has a ''Swastika'' It is reversed image, like in a mirror.It dates
wayyyy, wayyyy back, many, many years.
cuhulin
dsi1
2009-10-14 01:14:02 UTC
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Post by c***@webtv.net
India has a ''Swastika'' It is reversed image, like in a mirror.It dates
wayyyy, wayyyy back, many, many years.
cuhulin
It's a bitching symbol with a long history. Simple and symmetrical and
has the quality of movement. Too bad the Nazis ruined it for most of us.
News Journalism
2009-10-14 14:31:40 UTC
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Everyone who wants to "help" the swastika avoid its bad reputation
could help it by distinguishing it from the symbol used under German
Socialism. German National Socialists did not call their symbol a
swastika (and they did not call themselves nazis). The symbol was
called a hakenkreuz (hooked cross). And it was altered moreso by being
turned 45 degrees from the horizontal and always pointing in the S-
direction to represent S-letters for "sozialistische" (socialist)
under the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSGWP or NSDAP), as
shown in the growing body of work by the symbolist Dr. Rex Curry
(author of "Swastika Secrets"). http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html

It is odd how people who express pity for the swastika's bad
reputation continue to perpetuate stereotypes and ignorance about its
use under German National Socialism.

It happens so much that it causes one to wonder whether such people
are actually trying to rehabilitate "Nazism" by rehabilitating the
"Nazi" symbol (by covering up how the "nazi" symbol was used by German
National Socialists and by pretending that the German National
Socialist's use was no different from similar symbols used elsewhere).

As the original post states -

The Krit swastika had many similarities to the Hakenkreuz (hooked
cross) used later by German National Socialists. A photograph of the
Krit logo is at this link. http://rexcurry.net/krit-motor-car-company-detroit.jpg

The Krit swastika is very similar to the membership pin used under
Nazism. http://rexcurry.net/krit-car-nazi-member-pin.jpg

Here are other examples http://rexcurry.net/krit-motor-car-company-detroit3.jpg

An important difference between the Krit swastika and the Nazi
membership pin's hakenkreuz is that the latter shows how the symbol
was turned 45 degrees from the horizontal to represent S-letters for
"sozialistische" (socialist) under the National Socialist German
Workers Party (NSGWP or NSDAP), as shown in the growing body of work
by the symbolist Dr. Rex Curry (author of "Swastika Secrets").
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html

Because of government schools (socialist schools) almost all Americans
are ignorant of the fact that the "nazis" did not call themselves
"nazis," nor "fascists," that it was not the "nazi party," and that
they did not call their symbol a "swastika." The use of the term
"nazi" rocketed (along with American ignorance) due to propaganda
after the USA became WWII allies with the former Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics (formerly a WWII ally of the National Socialist
German Workers Party).

Although an ancient symbol, the swastika was used to represent crossed
S-letters for "socialism" under the NSDAP. See the graphic image of
the swastika symbolism at http://rexcurry.net/swastika3swastika.jpg
c***@webtv.net
2009-10-14 16:43:04 UTC
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History of Swastika Symbol.
www.thecolorsofindia.com/swastik/history.html

Old and Ancient.
cuhulin
News Journalism
2009-10-14 22:15:43 UTC
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History of Swastika Symbol.www.thecolorsofindia.com/swastik/history.html
Old and Ancient.
cuhulin
Thanks for confirming the information provided in the news.journalism
posts about the swastika symbol being old and ancient and for not
disputing any part of the news.journalism post. Everyone noticed.

Anyone who wants to "help" the swastika avoid its bad reputation
could help it by distinguishing it from the modern use of the symbol
under German
Socialism. German National Socialists did not call their symbol a
swastika (and they did not call themselves nazis). The symbol was
called a hakenkreuz (hooked cross). And it was altered moreso by being
turned 45 degrees from the horizontal and always pointing in the S-
direction to represent S-letters for "sozialistische" (socialist)
under the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSGWP or NSDAP), as
shown in the growing body of work by the symbolist Dr. Rex Curry
(author of "Swastika Secrets"). http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html

It is odd how people who express pity for the swastika's bad
reputation continue to perpetuate stereotypes and ignorance about its
use under German National Socialism.

It happens so much that it causes one to wonder whether such people
are actually trying to rehabilitate "Nazism" by rehabilitating the
"Nazi" symbol (by covering up how the "nazi" symbol was used by German
National Socialists and by pretending that the German National
Socialist's use was no different from similar symbols used elsewhere).

As the original post states -

The Krit swastika had many similarities to the Hakenkreuz (hooked
cross) used later by German National Socialists. A photograph of the
Krit logo is at this link. http://rexcurry.net/krit-motor-car-company-detroit.jpg

The Krit swastika is very similar to the membership pin used under
Nazism. http://rexcurry.net/krit-car-nazi-member-pin.jpg

Here are other examples http://rexcurry.net/krit-motor-car-company-detroit3.jpg

An important difference between the Krit swastika and the Nazi
membership pin's hakenkreuz is that the latter shows how the symbol
was turned 45 degrees from the horizontal to represent S-letters for
"sozialistische" (socialist) under the National Socialist German
Workers Party (NSGWP or NSDAP), as shown in the growing body of work
by the symbolist Dr. Rex Curry (author of "Swastika Secrets").
http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html

Because of government schools (socialist schools) almost all Americans
are ignorant of the fact that the "nazis" did not call themselves
"nazis," nor "fascists," that it was not the "nazi party," and that
they did not call their symbol a "swastika." The use of the term
"nazi" rocketed (along with American ignorance) due to propaganda
after the USA became WWII allies with the former Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics (formerly a WWII ally of the National Socialist
German Workers Party).

Although an ancient symbol, the swastika was used to represent crossed
S-letters for "socialism" under the NSDAP. See the graphic image of
the swastika symbolism at http://rexcurry.net/swastika3swastika.jpg
News Journalism
2009-10-16 19:10:37 UTC
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Post by News Journalism
History of Swastika Symbol.www.thecolorsofindia.com/swastik/history.html
Old and Ancient.
cuhulin
Thanks for confirming the information provided in the news.journalism
posts about the swastika symbol being old and ancient and for not
disputing any part of the news.journalism post.  Everyone noticed.
Anyone who wants to "help" the swastika avoid its bad reputation
could help it by distinguishing it from the modern use of the symbol
under German
Socialism. German National Socialists did not call their symbol a
swastika (and they did not call themselves nazis). The symbol was
called a hakenkreuz (hooked cross). And it was altered moreso by being
turned 45 degrees from the horizontal and always pointing in the S-
direction to represent S-letters for "sozialistische" (socialist)
under the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSGWP or NSDAP), as
shown in the growing body of work by the symbolist Dr. Rex Curry
(author of "Swastika Secrets").http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html
It is odd how people who express pity for the swastika's bad
reputation continue to perpetuate stereotypes and ignorance about its
use under German National Socialism.
It happens so much that it causes one to wonder whether such people
are actually trying to rehabilitate "Nazism" by rehabilitating the
"Nazi" symbol (by covering up how the "nazi" symbol was used by German
National Socialists and by pretending that the German National
Socialist's use was no different from similar symbols used elsewhere).
As the original post states -
The Krit swastika had many similarities to the Hakenkreuz (hooked
cross) used later by German National Socialists. A photograph of the
Krit logo is at this link.http://rexcurry.net/krit-motor-car-company-detroit.jpg
The Krit swastika is very similar to the membership pin used under
Nazism.http://rexcurry.net/krit-car-nazi-member-pin.jpg
Here are other exampleshttp://rexcurry.net/krit-motor-car-company-detroit3.jpg
An important difference between the Krit swastika and the Nazi
membership pin's hakenkreuz is that the latter shows how the symbol
was turned 45 degrees from the horizontal to represent S-letters for
"sozialistische" (socialist) under the National Socialist German
Workers Party (NSGWP or NSDAP), as shown in the growing body of work
by the symbolist Dr. Rex Curry (author of "Swastika Secrets").http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html
Because of government schools (socialist schools) almost all Americans
are ignorant of the fact that the "nazis" did not call themselves
"nazis," nor "fascists," that it was not the "nazi party," and that
they did not call their symbol a "swastika." The use of the term
"nazi" rocketed (along with American ignorance) due to propaganda
after the USA became WWII allies with the former Union of Soviet
Socialist Republics (formerly a WWII ally of the National Socialist
German Workers Party).
Although an ancient symbol, the swastika was used to represent crossed
S-letters for "socialism" under the NSDAP. See the graphic image of
the swastika symbolism athttp://rexcurry.net/swastika3swastika.jpg
Swastika symbolism and the Maybach emblem expose frightening chapters
of history and symbology. http://rexcurry.net/maybach-car-pictures.html

The Maybach's double-M symbol exposes the swastika as double-S letters
for "socialism" under the National Socialist German Workers Party, as
shown in the work of the noted symbolist Dr. Rex Curry.
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The following is another graphic example of the symbolism of the
swastika. http://rexcurry.net/swastika3swastika.jpg

The following is an additional graphic examples of the symbolism of
the swastika http://rexcurry.net/swastika-vw-logo.JPG

Volkswagen also supports Dr. Curry's discoveries. http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter4a1a2a.html

Audi also provides support. http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter4a1a2a1.html

Trabant provides additional evidence in support.
http://rexcurry.net/trabant-sachsenring-rex-curry.html

The Krit Motor Car Company of Detroit supports Dr. Curry's
discoveries. It was an American car that bore a swastika long before
it was associated with German cars and the Volkswagen VW.
http://rexcurry.net/krit_motor_car_company_detroit.html

The Volkswagen logo is alphabetical symbolism of the meshed letters
"V" and "W" that exposes the swastika as intertwined "S" shapes
symbolizing "Socialism" under German National Socialism.

Dr. Curry's work has been announced and verified on Wikipedia. A
recent article at opinioneditorials.com reports on the many references
to Dr. Curry's research and discoveries on Wikipedia. Even Wikipedia
founder Jimbo Wales has publicly noted Dr. Curry's influence on
Wikipedia. Wikipedia writers use Dr. Curry's work without attribution
in apparent attempts to bolster their own credibility.

Everyone concedes that the swastika was the symbol of the National
Socialist German Workers' Party (NSGWP). In that sense, the swastika
was a symbol of socialism, at least for the NSGWP.

Swastika images 1 Loading Image...
Swastika pictures 2 http://rexcurry.net/swastika3swastika.jpg
Swastika images 3 Loading Image...

The remaining question is the question that everyone else overlooked.
Did the NSGWP (or its leader), in using the swastika symbol for the
National Socialist German Workers' Party, ever see it as S-letters for
their "socialism"? The Volkswagen symbol answers that question in the
affirmative.

Maybach-Motorenbau GmbH was founded in 1909 by Wilhelm Maybach. The
company was originally a subsidiary of Luftschiffbau Zeppelin GmbH.
Today, the brand is owned by Daimler AG and based in Stuttgart.

The company first built an experimental car in 1919, with the first
production model introduced two years later at the Berlin Motor Show.

The start of the Maybach's double-M symbol is not certain. However,
the double-M symbol is shown in a poster for the Maybach W3, built in
1921 and shown at Berlin Motor Show.

Between 1921 and 1940, the company produced various vehicles. The
company also continued to build heavy duty diesel engines for marine
and rail purposes.

Maybach contributed to the German National Socialist war effort in
World War II by producing the engines for many mobile artilleries and
tanks such as Jagdpanther, Panther and Tiger tanks with the Maybach
HL230.

Today, Audi is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Volkswagen Group.

Germany in the 1930's often used symbols for letters and words. Common
symbols under the National Socialist German Workers' Party often used
the "S" shape, including the side-by-side use in the "SS" Division and
the overlapping use in the swastika. The German word was not
"swastika," but "Hakenkreuz" ("hooked cross" or "armed cross").

Hitler was aware of the practice, and perhaps the source of the
practice, in that he evolved "Adolf Hitler" into "S Hitler" in his own
signature. It was a manner of declaring his socialism every time he
signed his name and it was equivalent to signing "Socialist Hitler."
http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter4a1a4.html

It is part of growing evidence that supports the discovery by the
historian Rex Curry (in the book "Swastika Secrets") that the
Hakenkreuz, although an ancient symbol, was used also to represent "S"
shapes for "Socialism" and its victory under the horrid National
Socialists. http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html

Dr. Curry is also famous for proving that the USA's early Pledge of
Allegiance was the origin of the straight-arm salute adopted later by
the National Socialist German Workers' Party. http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-pledge.html

The following is a frightening example of a photograph of the early
Pledge of Allegiance Loading Image...

The following page shows more examples of the stiff-arm salute of the
early Pledge of Allegiance http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html

For additional proof of the use of the "S" shapes of the "sieg" runes
see a newly discovered youth's book at http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter4a1a3.html

Also see additional posters at http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter4a1b.html
and more posters at http://rexcurry.net/socialist-propaganda/posters1.html
and German medals at http://rexcurry.net/socialism/germany.html and
flags and banners at http://rexcurry.net/swastikaflags.html and for a
fuller explanation see http://rexcurry.net/swastikanews.html

The National Socialist German Workers' Party began in 1920, and
achieved electoral breakthroughs in 1930, and dictatorship in 1933.
hls
2009-10-19 15:25:50 UTC
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Post by c***@webtv.net
History of Swastika Symbol.
www.thecolorsofindia.com/swastik/history.html
Old and Ancient.
cuhulin
As you may know, Hitler had scientific people do a lot of research in
India and the surroundings trying to prove the myth of the superhumans,
the Aryans as he called them, who were supposed to be a pure superrace.
He adopted a lot of lore associated with his cult belief, and I believe
the swastika was just another part of this.
News Journalism
2009-10-24 12:35:50 UTC
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There are amazing parallels between the swastika used by the Krit
Motor Car Company
http://rexcurry.net/krit_motor_car_company_detroit.html

and the Hakenkreuz symbol viewed by Hitler at Lambach Abbey in Austria
(note the letters surrounding the swastika).
http://rexcurry.net/lambach-abbey-benedictine-austria-swastika.html

Lambach Abbey Hakenkreuz picture at Loading Image...

Krit Motor Car Company swastika at http://rexcurry.net/krit-motor-car-company-detroit3.jpg

See the work of the symbolist Dr. Rex Curry (author of "Swastika
Secrets").

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